Pre-Race Trading and Drinking Beer


Well it's been almost a year since I decided to venture into the murky waters of pre-race trading and to be honest things haven't quite developed as I expected. I've attended most of the TFF webinars and watched hundreds of recordings of previous pre-race markets but I'm still struggling to get that consistency, and consistency is the key in any type of trading.


So, what are the reasons why I haven't yet cracked this pre-race game? Well the good thing is that I know what they are:

  • being aware of the type of race and trading accordingly: well this is the first thing that you need to determine before you even enter a market. You need to be aware of the day of the week (for instance, Saturday's are obviously more suited to trading as opposed to Monday's), the meeting (it's a no-brainer that the pre-race market at Newmarket will be a lot stronger than a market at Wolverhampton), race type (the form is more exposed in a handicap than a maiden), number of runners (trading a 3 runner race is different from trading a 10 runner race), price of the top 2 or 3 runners, i.e is the favourite 1.5 or 3.5.

I'd like to think that I have most of these points covered, whereas in the early days I'd trade every race in a very similar style. No wonder I nearly always lost!



  • entering the market at the correct time: there's no point in entering a market before you have any clear signals, unless you have solid reasons to believe a certain selection will shorten or drift.

I still occasionally fall fail of this point. I think that there is a thin line between successfully getting onboard a perceived move 4 or 5 minutes before the off and riding the profit, or getting on only to find a reversal as soon as the 'real' cash appears. It all comes down to timing. It's frustrating when you miss a nice gradual move, but it's even more frustrating when you join a steady move and it suddenly goes against you and you find that you entered very close to the low or high of the range. I suppose the answer is to quickly take the red when this happens.



  • exiting the market at the corect time: there's no point in exiting the market before you have any clear signals.

When I have a trade that puts me in the green zone then I tend to phase-out my position. For instance, if I have backed for £50 at 3.5 then I exit by maybe putting lays for £5 at 3.45, 3.4, 3.35, etc. This is a good policy and although it extends your green zone it also negates some of your profit if the trade moves further than expected in your direction. I need to work on this and not stick to a rigid exit policy.



  • changing stakes accordingly: it goes without saying that in some instances you will feel stronger about a potential move, so ideally you should alter your stakes accordingly.

I think that this is the area where I could greatly improve my pre-race results. I tend to use similar stakes each race, so I really need to commit a bit more cash when I have a stronger feeling for a move.



  • playing too cautiously/aggressively: there's no point in being aggressive when you don't have the ideal conditions in which to be aggressive, this also applies to being too cautious when it's clearly time to get stuck-in.

I tend to play a more cautious game when I trade IR and I think that I need to adopt a cautious yet aggressive policy in my pre-race game.




So in summary:

I need to focus on being more selective with my entry points and when I do sense a good opportunity be prepared to commit more cash and scale my exit points more effectively .... and take a quick RED if the market doesn't move as expected!


Let's see how this goes and I'll report back and post some recordings. I wanted to put a daily recording in this blog but to be honest the first few recordings that I captured were pretty basic and boring. However, if I follow the above policy then I should be able to capture some more interesting action.


PS Caan over at Trading a Profit has published a pre-race guide and although I haven't seen it as yet I would expect that it's probably worth the cash if you're looking to get seriously involved in the pre-race game.


Anyway, on to the more serious stuff ...

A pint or maybe 2 of Oranjeboom outside The Hampton Inn @ Herne Bay




Another south-east coast pub added to my list!



11/08

+£182.20. Good day today, especially for a Sunday. Followed my rules, as above, and had 2 good pre-race trade races where I traded well and was relatively happy. The profits weren't anything spectacular, but these will come in time with increased confidence.




So off to a cheap B&B for a couple of days and enjoy the last of the Summer weather and indulge in a few more beers!

Here's one I drank earlier in the year ...

A pint of Fosters (it's all they had!) outside The Swan @ Westgate.




14/08

+£67.95. Had another nice couple of days down on the coast. Decided to do a bit of nightime cycling on Tuesday morning after a few sherberts and it was interesting cycling along in the pitch black on my way to Deal. Arrived there at about 05:00 and it was a glorious morning just sitting by the beach as the tide lapped against the shore. Unfortuntaely I had to cycle all the way back to Ramsgate and ended-up completely knackered and with a sore ass (I knew I shouldn't have stopped off at that dogging site!). Got back to Ramsgate just after opening time, 07:00, but couldn't face another beer so had a fry-up and a cuppa then retreated off to bed. Ventured out again around lunchtime and the weather was nice but I felt fucked sitting in the sun trying to recover from my excessive night of drinking/cycling. Had a cracking couple of days though so now I really do need to hit the diet again and my weight has ballooned out of control and I generally feel like a sack of shite.




So it looks as though after a night of drinking that I was the last man standing in the whole of Ramsgate! This was somewhere around 02:00 if I remember correctly and everyone else was tucked up in bed.






15/08

+£158.71. Felt as though the my body was almost alcohol free today and therefore didn't do too bad. A nice steady day which goes some way to covering my recent beer expenses.




Getting stuck into a pint of Carling outside The Enigma @ Rochester during The Sweeps Festival.



 

16/08

-£7.71. Only managed to trade a few races today and managed to lose my meagre winnings on my penultimate trade!




Outside The Bohemian @ Deal. Unfortunately it was 05:00 so I had absolutely no chance of getting a beer!





17/08

+£128.62. A busy Saturday today. Started well and then went back to zero ... felt fucked-off but stayed calm and chipped away and ended up with another £100+ day.




A pint of Carling in Charlottes Bar @ Rochester.





18/08

+£89.73. Almost reached the £100 barrier ... but not quite!




Taking a glass of Peroni on the beach @ Whitstable at around 09:30 ... note the Hoegaarden glass!






19/08

+£84.53. Another steady day with not much pre-race action as I found most of the markets tricky to read so I just concentrated on my IR and it didn't work out too bad.




The view while I was drinking my Peroni (see above).





22/08

+£224.37. Squeezed in another couple of days down by the coast but now it's back to work for the Autumn and beyond!



Ooooh .... a pint of Guiness in The Crown @ Rochester.




23/08

+£34.83. Never really got going today and finished early as I was off with the lads to the Electric Ballroom in Camden with the lads to celebrate my boys birthday. We all had a cracking time and didn't get home until after 04:00 which is late even by my standards!




Sampling a pint of Oranjeboom outside The Rose Inn @ Herne Bay.






24/08

+£59.21. Fell into a bit of a defensive mindset today and missed quite a few nice bets as my cautious nature kicked-in.




Might be tempted to have one more visit to the coast next week and do some more cycling as the weather is supposed to stay nice and sunny. If I can nick a few quid tomorrow then I might shoot down there for a couple of days, although the drinking is starting to play havoc with my body and general well-being! I feel another diet coming on ....


Another Guiness ... this time in The Nags Head @ Chatham.




25/08

+£71.70. Was winning pennies and then got £50+ in one race so the day didn't end too badly, well for a Sunday anyway.




Smothered in sun cream and indulging in a pint of Fosters outside The Fayreness Inn @ Broadstairs.



 

26/08

+£44.58. Not much to say about today ...




Getting stuck into another pint of Peroni outside The Roma @ Ramsgate.




At £4.60 a pint they must have seen me coming!!



30/08

+£58.88. Back from another few days at the coast. Felt tired as usual so was happy with any kind of profit.




And once again I'm the last man standing in the centre of Ramsgate in the early hours of the morning!






31/08

+£81.35. A steady day for a Saturday. As usual should have made more but it just didn't happen.




So ended August with 6 days of £100+ profit and only 2 small losing day. I did take quite a few days off to drink and be merry but I think that it's back to the autumn/winter grind with the evening racing about to finish.

This is the time of year when back in 2012 it all started going tits-up .... so let's see how it goes in September.




 


Time to get a bit more AGGRESSIVE?


I've missed a lot of good IR trades during July dut to being too risk adverse. Playing this way is OK but it does little to alleviate the burden of the Premium Charge and it severely limits what I can win. So this month I'll be striking a few more wagers. This will probably result in me having a few more losing days, but my winning days should be a lot more fruitful and I would expect to get a few £200+ days if I play in this manner.

My pre-race trading has been a bit sketchy over the last few days, probably due to the fact that I'm still playing mostly IR, so I need to regroup and start making the pre-race game pay.


01/08

+£56.49. Missed a few opportunities today as my house is full of screaming kids, grandchildren and the wife, all conspiring to give me a nervous breakdown and not the ideal situation in which to be trading. Also found myself practising the piano when I should have been working!



 

02/08

+£193.96. Got straight into the groove today and never looked back. Still missed 1 or 2 oportunities by a gnats cock but overall I was happy with the result and I'll be looking to keep the momentum going tomorrow (Saturday)





03/08

+£11.89. Chipped away and was just approaching the £100 mark and had a reckless bet at Lingfield and knocked it all out! Felt REALLY FUCKED OFF! Probably just took my eye off the ball for a second and made a silly bet .... well that happens sometimes I suppose.




07/08

-£6.29. Just back from the coast that saw us combine some lovely early morning/lunchtime drinking coupled with lacklustre efforts in the evening. After a late start went straight into the red and once again spent most of the day and evening trying to claw back the few quid that I had lost. Clawing back the money that went across the several bars that we visited may take a few more days!







08/08

+£119.50. Bounced back to action today and probably could have won a bit more if my cautious approach hadn't kicked-in once or twice.




Going to focus on getting that elusive three £100+ days in a row and as we're heading into the weeekend the opportunity is there ... I just need to take it!


09/08

+£55.61. Was trundling along and may have possibly just hit the 3 figure barrier and then lost a bit towards the end of the day and had to settle for just over £50.






10/08

+£63.03. Started off the day poorly and was soon well down. Had other issues going on and as I mentioned previously if you're not 100% focussed on the trading then you're more likely to fuck-up and do your cash. Started to claw back a few quid and then came SO close to dropping over £300 in one race and this definitely gave me a bit of a shock, so re-focussed and ended-up just over £60 quid up after being £70+ quid down (and almost going £350+ down!!).






















It's Impossible to Lose!



23/07

+£187.06. Had one of those days today where it felt impossible to lose. OK, it wasn't exactly a world record but I feel that I'm still heading in the right direction and days like this give you an extra boost when they come along. Unfortunately these tend to come once in a blue moon, although having just typed this I'm realising that despite all of these years on Betfair I still have a pessimistic approach!




I have mentioned before though that just when you think things are easy you tend to come down to earth with a bump, so hopefully it's business as usual tomorrow, grinding away and not getting too carried away and doing my bollox!

PS Wouldn't mind having a week like this!



24/07

+£35.75. Felt a bit defensive and spent most of the day just trying not to lose yesterdays profit (although came very close to blowing £210 in one race and was only saved by an early suspend at the end of a race) so only managed a paltry gain.





25/07

+£108.61. Another good day profit-wise and also learnt a little bit more about the pre-race markets, so all good!






26/07



+£43.97. Trundled along early and then realised that I was winning fuck-all and fell into a miserable mood where I couldn't win a thing! Nicked a few quid late on to ease the pain ...



Also ventured into the Betdaq market in a couple of races to play IR over the sticks ...






27/07

-£34.90. How the fuck I lost today is fucking unbelievable! Started OK and was easily heading for another £100+ day and then it all went tits-up with 2 losing bets in close proximity. Could have been worse I suppose ....




 

28/07

+£46.93. Retrieved yesterdays losses but as mentioned before I really do need to start winning more than £50 a day!





29/07

+£116.63. Another 3 figure day today so pretty pleased. Would be nice to finish the month with three of these days in a row? We'll see what happens ....




One of the afternoon cards was AW racing from Wolverhampton and I'd forgotten how volatile the pre-race markets can be at this track. You certainly do have to adopt an entirely different strategy at Wolves as the markets seem to act totally different to any other 'normal' track.



30/07

+£107.83. Just about edged through the £100 barrier so happy again. Is it possible to do it again tomorrow?


 


31/07

+£48.18. Tried hard but was unable to pull off the treble.





 

It's Summer!


Yep Summer has arrived with a bang. Had a cracking weekend down the coast and now back to the daily grind.

02/07

+£28.85. Felt like shite after 2 days of stupendous beer drinking.




03/07

+£27.55. Another pretty shitty day.




04/07

+£4.25. Played like a complete wanker today and felt completely fucked off. Felt tired and miserable after having to get up early and run errands for family members. As mentioned before if you're ever tired or just fucked-off from poncing about and getting grief from your wife, daughters, sons, etc then you're almost certainly going to do your bollox. I've seen this happen several times before, both to myself and colleagues when they're trying to trade but they are either tired or their mind is elsewhere dealing with family issues and all of the bollox that goes with it.






05/07

+£70.08. Upped the stakes today and played purely IR Was quite aggressive as I still felt fucked-off by certain family members and came close to doing my bollox once or twice, but at least I posted a better score than some of my previous efforts so far this month.





Really need to get back to the coast so going to play aggressive again tomorrow and try and win enough cash to cover me for the next few days.



06/07

+£85.97. Really need to start pulling in £100+ a day on a regular basis. Will give it a good crack when I return from the coast.




09/07

-£44.30. Chipped away pennies and then knocked it all out!





10/07

+£25.69. Another slow and frustrating day. Hardly played any pre-race as it seemed all over the place and the standard of the fields were generally shite.



Might have a go on the DAQ tomorrow pre-race for small stakes and see how it goes.


11/07

+£39.03. Struggled to make any real headway all day and had to settle for a meagre profit.





Traded 6 early races on the DAQ for small stakes. I used my Geeks Toy BF chart and 180 second chart underneath the Geeks Toy Betdaq ladder and this seemed to work OK.

Back to the coast on the weekend to make the most of the sunny weather so could really do with a decent day tomorrow.


12/07

+£4.62. Didn't have time to play many races today as off to the coast again!




15/07

+£22.68. Things are gradually grinding to a halt!





16/07

+£85.62. Almost reached a 3 figure profit today and even played a few greyhound races. Wooohooo!






17/07

+£43.30. Felt quite confident in the pre-race markets until the evening meetings started then it all became a bit haphazard as the markets were jumping about like crazy. I suppose that once you notice this then you have to alter your game plan accordingly.





I'll endeavour to take a few recordings and I'll post a daily recording from now until the end of July.


18/07

+£111.81. Finally broke through the 3 figure barrier .... just need to keep doing that every day!







19/07

+£58.31. Really tried to press on today and get another 3 figure profit on board, however I didn't really get any juicy trades and finished on just over £50. Saturday tomorrow so will have another bash at breaking the £100 barrier.




Had a quick look at the pre-race markets on the DAQ and they looked better than ever. I will have another crack over the next few days but it's a pain trying to amalgamate the BF graphs alongside the Betdaq ladders.

This is how I have my Geeks Toy for BF setup. I have ladders for the top 4 in the betting, the market overview, the BF graph and a streaming chart showing the last 4 minutes.




To trade effectively on the DAQ I like to see the BF graph (which you don't get on the DAQ, and the streaming chart also from BF). I have asked Betdaq several times if they can provide the same info that is provided by the BF API, such as total amount matched at each price, but they don't seem to be too keen to develop their API for some reason?

So my Betdaq setup looks something like this:




However, it's a right pain in the bum fucking about with the windows before each race, it would be so much easier if the API people at Betdaq provided this info.

I suppose that the Geek could pump the BF data into the Betdaq version of the toy, but then I suppose BF would throw a wobbly and start complaining about the use of their data?



20/07

+£113.45. Another 3 figure day, but probably down to the sheer volume of racing on offer. The pre-race markets felt superb with regards to turnover and I now realise that you really have to get stuck in and make the most of the turnover, especially on the bigger races, but my cautious nature still holds me back. However, I feel that my pre-race game is still gradually improving so I'm happy.






21/07

+£4.08. Dropped a few quid early on and then spent the rest of the afternoon chipping away just to get it back. Quite a few of the races had short-priced joint favourites and I find these quite hard to trade pre-race so chances were limited and in general the markets were completely different to yesterday. I did record a few of my pre-race trades but to be quite honest they were pretty boring, so I'll try and get a nice one for tomorrow.





22/07

+£32.58. Got caught early on by a big Tony McCoy drifter and then beavered away to get my head slightly in front.